What is JWH-018? Why is it Dangerous? What do Parents Need to Know?

JWH-018 is known as a chemical with analgesic properties thus it is often described as a pain-killer. It was actually named after the initials of its proponent John W. Huffman. It is a cannabinoid agonist for the receptors tagged as CB1 and CB2 and comes from the family of naphthoylindoles. The JWH-018 can be consumed orally by individuals at a dose of around 3 mg to 20 mg. However, if the substance needs to be smoked, then the dosage should be lowered.

JWH-018 is actually brown in color and is lumpy, dry and somewhat sticky in nature. When it is still raw, the compound is dense. The denser the compound, the darker it can get. When it goes through certain processes such as crystallization, its appearance will definitely change. This raises confusion as to the purity and actual appearance of the JWH-018.

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The Effects of JWH-018

There have been studies or press releases that suggest that the compound JWH-018 is the primary ingredient in a legal herbal blend known as Spice Gold. Although this is a legal herbal blend, its effects is said to be similar to marijuana. In fact, the substance is already tagged as a synthetic marijuana version of this drug. Though these speculations seem to spread, its reality is not proven by science yet.

JWH-018 is also said to produce similar effects to that of THC or tetrahydrocannabinol. This is a substance that produces mild to moderate analgesic effects. The two differs however depending on what happens after these substances are smoked by an individual. In JWH-018, the peak results are experienced at an instant. In THC, the effects are delayed for around 10 to 15 minutes.

However, before you buy JWH-018, you should know more about its real effects in an individual. Its effects are mainly categorized as similar to cannabis. Some side effects include anxiety, nausea, hallucinations, paranoia and tachycardia. These effects become more prominent when taken in high doses.

What Parents Should Know about JWH-018

Parents may not be fully aware of the real effects of JWH-018 in their children. Here are some facts that every parent should know when it comes to this component. This is despite the fact that the substance is said to be legal in some parts of the US including Arizona.

  1. Blends of JWH-018 may differ from one manufacturer to another. Manufacturers list the herbal ingredients found inside their products. The problem is they do not specify how much of the JWH-018 compound is present in a blend. Parents must be warned about this as too much of the compound may bring about greater side effects.
  2. JWH-018 should not be taken with alcohol. Parents should be wary if their children attend parties where alcohol and smoking may be a usual part of the affair. JWH-018 may be offered during the occasion. And with a glass of wine, smoking the blend may result to severe headaches that can be felt at the base of the skull. This can last for several hours and is worse than any type of hangover.
  3. JWH-018 blends can have harsh effects on the respiratory system. The lungs may experience too much pain while the throat may also be burned by the substance.

JWH-018 is supposed to be taken like a pain reliever at the right dosage. Taking it in excess will cause all the dangers presented above. Parents, as well as young ones, must be warned about this.

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93 comments to What is JWH-018? Why is it Dangerous? What do Parents Need to Know?

  • Jacob Freeman

    I’d like to point out a few things from direct experience. I’ve never smoked marijuana, but I’ve smoked JWH-018, and most of my friends smoke marijuana as well as JWH-018. Something that definitely needs to be clarified is that the effects of JWH-018 are not instantaneous as mentioned above. It’s only instantaneous if smoked directly in its crystal form. The vast majority of users don’t ingest it like that. It is usually sprayed on some kind of smokable herb. Marijuana users that are trying JWH-018 for the first time often feel like they didn’t get anything out of it, and they take more hits not realizing that the effects of the substance are much more delayed then marijuana’s. This misinformation leads to a higher occurrence of overdosing, and unlike marijuana, people tend to have these intense feelings of anxiety and paranoia when they smoke too much. There’s a lot of people that don’t seem to get that way though. They just get really “high” and they like it. It really depends on the overall mood of the person. I also want to point out that JWH-018 does NOT cause hallucinations. This is a very common misconception. I’m speaking from months and months of being around people that smoke this stuff. The truth is that there is a substance called K2 that has JWH-018 in it along with a variety of other psychoactive herbs, and they are the culprit for these supposed nausea and hallucination problems. People tend to overlook the significance of these other herbs in K2, and they blame everything on JWH-018. I have NEVER experienced or heard of any experiences from any of my peers evolving any type of hallucinations when using just JWH-018, and come to think of it, I’ve never heard of any nausea either, but nausea does sound like something that is likely to happen if too much is ingested. The anxiety and paranoia, however, are both real issues, but they are completely gone afterward. Most would say that they actually benefited from the situation because they where actually mentally tackling real issues in their own subconscious, and they feel like a better person the next day when it’s over. I see a lot of articles like this that are being posted on the Internet that are really painting a negative picture of JWH-018. I don’t typically smoke it. It’s been weeks since the last time I had any, but I really believe that it is a good thing when used responsibly. I would like to see more articles about the positive experiences from it.

  • Brandon

    Yes, Jacob’s description of 018 is pretty accurate. What people don’t realize is that 018 is a completely different drug than cannabis, it’s chemical structure looks nothing like THC or any other cannabinoid. This is why it’s legal in most states. There is definitely a difference between the herbal blends and the pure 018. I would suggest the pure powder, because that way you should know exactly what and how much you’re getting. If your mind is not in a good place, 018 can make you very uncomfortable, especially if you take more than you should. But if you are responsible with it, 018 can be very relaxing. There is no noticeable dependency either. The high is more portable than weed, since it’s more of a body high. If you don’t try and relax, the effects are not as apparent. It’ll let you sleep better as well. Plus, it does not stimulate appetite as much as cannabis, which can be a good thing if you don’t need the extra calories. But if I was a parent, I would rather catch my kid doing cannabis than alcohol or 018 or any other drug for that matter. Over all, 018 seems like a promising drug by itself, and should not be conceived as a marijuana substitute, because that only leads to overdoses and misconception.

  • Tom Black

    My wife and I smoked some over the weekend, mixed in an herbal blend. We have smoked before, but this was the second time only for this particular blend. Earlier in the day, Round 1, my friend acted out of character than the previous smokes we had together, and seemed far more looped than any other time, of just two hits. It passed quickly and all was fine.

    Later, after taking two hits in Round 2, my wife says she didn’t feel good. She then went through 3 hours of bouts of passing out, vomiting, and having severe difficulty with staying cognative. We finally called the ambulance after the first 30 minutes of this cycling through symptoms.
    Her oxygen saturation levels had dropped to 80% and could have gotten worse had we not called for help. I believe this was at risk of becoming fatal.

    Don’t smoke this stuff without making an informed decision first. Know the risks.

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  • Mechelle

    I am a single mother of 3 and suffer from bipolar disease. Often times I am on edge and just unhappy. When I began smoking 018, I noticed the similar high you get from mary jane immediately, which I hadn’t smoked in more than a decade. I began to smoke more and realized as well as my peers that I have become a much more serene person. Its a light high and not as heavy as mary jane, I dont feel really stoned when the effects are wearing off and I don’t get extra paranoid either as I already suffer from that without it. I really enjoy 018 as its helping me cope thru my days. I am still doing extensive research on it and will continue to follow any new discoveries on it. I highly encourage doing your own research on it and making your own wise judgements on wether or not its for you…

  • Rebecca

    I am a 25 yearold mother of two….i suffer from sever to moderate ongoing depression i have been to 4 diffrent psycolgist and have taken a number of diffrent meds to help my condition…..i feel better for awile but i just find my self back in the same boat after a month or two….when i first heard about JHW-018 or (spice) i was resiliante until a good friend of mine brought some over for me to try insureing me it was ok….i tried it and immediatly felt the effects i smoked two hits of it and felt good and energized i now smoke it responsabliy and it helps me through my day……i started hearing bad things about it so i did some research on it and i must say that after smoking “spice” for 4 mo i have never felt any negitive side effects such as nausa or paranoia…..it has also helped my sex life and givin me the umph i need to get through my day….i do however feel that this “drug” should be used by adults or under the supervision of a responsible parent (if u choose)

  • mary

    i have been smoking jwh018 for about 7 months now. the only problem that i have with it is that i wake up the next morning with bad stomach cramps. i dont know if this is causing it but i dont care. id rather smoke this than weed. i have severe back and neck problems and when i smoke this i feel no pain and it feels so good to go 2 hours pain free.

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  • Kaylee

    I do this several times in one day and ive been doing it for months. I feel like i know a lot about it. One thing i’d like to point out that no one has mentioned, i feel that the effects of jwh-018 is sometimes dramatically different from person to person. Ive introduced jwh to many people. Some of them felt it insantly, actually before exhaling. Some took 10 minutes to feel the high. Some only need a tiny amount (i smoke the synthesized crystal like version with a socket and a screen) and some, like me, need large piles of the synthetic drug. Also, friends of mine have hallucinated on it and so have i. I also know people that have “left their body”. For some of my friends its lasted up to 4 hours, but its always lasted no longer than 2 for me. I usually come down before an hour. Ive thrown up on it twice, out of the hundred and some times ive done it, but thats just because i got too high. People throw up feom weed. Ive also become addicted to it, to a small extent. The withdrawal for me is simply a loss of appetite, lack of sleep, headache or uneasiness for 2-3 days. Its nothing bad. I also use it as a pain reliever. As for its long term effects, it doesnt make sense to do anything severe to your body, but its only downfall in my opinion is that we dont know for sure. It definitely has short term effects on your respiratory system, but nothing severe. However dont do it if your a musician and need to sing, bc doing it to much makes singing super hard. Idk, after reading this article, i feel like there isnt much bad about jdubs. Oh well, itll be illegal next year, just like everything else good

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  • KxAxT

    Hello everybody. My names Jason. I have been smoking marijuana for 10 years and JWH-018 since I’ve heard of it, which is probably 5 months ago. I have smoked multiple blends of JWH-018 such as Magic Spice, K-2, Mojeaux, and some others… The effects of weed and Spice aren’t to different. My girlfriend is on probation and gets drug tested (9 months left) and I thought I would try it with her. If anything it is a little stronger than weed, seeing as JWH-018 is 5x stronger than THC.

    I have seen a few people have bad reactions to it, as in white in the face and lips, they have to sit/lay down and they felt really dizzy. those effects soon wore off. at least within 20 minutes.

    I smoke a real lot, so I highly doubt I will ever get any of those effects, but until that day I’m still going to smoke weed and Spice till they ban it in MA. I suggest at least trying it, to all the first timers out there. and if anything, can anybody give ME some side effects of this drug? I have yet to feel anything that would be “Long term” and have yet to find anything on the internet about it. so can somebody help me out?

  • justin

    my name is justin and i have been smoking spice for four months never felt better instant anti depresant, energizer. thing to do is round up a few of your friends and spice it up. most fun i have had in a long time

  • jake

    I read all the above forums and all I can say is those of you who say they have tried jwh-018 without having a bad reaction either have not tried it in its most potent form or are not getting the same stuff as we are out west. I have tried it in its original form and as Bonzai winter boost. I cant believe anybody who says its anything like weed. Its NOT. That is by far the most powerfull hallucinagenic known to man. If you havent tried it DONT. God gave us weed and thats all youll ever want after trying this shit.I rolled a joint with a half gram, took 4 hits and thought I was gonna die.At least with acid ther are moments of good elations. With this stuff, it is down right FUCKING scary. Bad shit I tell ya. Ive been puffin since I was 15 and Im now 35 and I can tell you personally, I would not recommend this stuff to the most experienced and seasoned tripper. This was by far the worst experience I and a few friends have ever had and I can promise you I would never try it again. Stick with weed folks, mankind can not mimic GODS creations with a successful outcome.

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  • Renee

    My son smoked pep spice and then moved on to JWH-018 because he was on probation and drug tested. Yes he passed all his drug tests. He is 19 years old. He used JWH-018 for about 3 months. Suddenly, he was unable to sleep, had high anxiety and parnoid attacks, and had severe memory loss. His is unable to attend school or work. He was recently diagonosed as bipolar. He and I both believe that high usage of this synethetic drug lead to his psyhcotic behavoir. Users please beware.

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  • Cannabis Joe

    I tried smoking K2, and as stated is DOES have other chemicals in it besides jwh-018. I REALLY messed me up (as in I got REALLY high). I still can’t honestly believe anyone has hallucinated on this stuff, as I was higher than I have ever been in my entire life. I’ve been smoking MJ since I was 16, I’m now 29, so I’ve got quite a bit of experience smoking. After trying jwh-018 and not liking the cost of buying the synthetics (K2 etc) a friend and I ordered some pure jwh-018 and some Damiana leaves and followed a specific set of instructions found online for making our own blend. It’s a HELL of a lot cheaper (around $7 an oz) and if done properly acts like kind bud. I have experienced minor headaches after smoking from time to time, but it’s random and honestly quite rare. As for smoking MJ, I would much prefer it as it’s natural and not a chemical but if you want to have a decent paying job it’s not an option. So, I’ll continue to smoke my Damiana blend until our ignorant country figures out a way to tax MJ thus making it legal.

    FYI – My roommate is on probation and smokes jwh-018 quite regularly. Has passed all his drug tests. We had a walkthrough (cops searching the apt for any drugs) and they found our Damiana leaves (with the jwh-018 compound already applied), but as we put the Damiana back in the bag it came in (with the label on it reading it’s uses, smoking WAS included as a use of Damiana) it was completely legal. They did make him discuss it with his probation officer (about wether or not he could smoke it and stay out of trouble), and it was ok’d. JUST DON’T TELL THEM YOU’VE GOT JWH-018 ON THE DAMIANA! LMAO

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  • Ray

    I just ordered some k2-blonde today. I just want to hit on a few topics thou, Ive been smoking for years the real stuff about 20 years now. but I lost contacts and have trouble now getting it , so I am gonna try some k2, I would like to add thou that the real MJ causes alot of these effects also , I have had many bad anxity attacks smoking weed, and I know many that also has, but then after a few beers kick in and I come down a bit I love the feeling of being high, for me it makes me get into things more and relaxes me , I am hoping k2 does that too. but the main thing I learned with all smokes, dont do alot at one time. since ive been doing that I havent had anxity attacks. so the first time I try k2 Im gonna take one hit, wait 20 mins or so and see what feeling I get. I even do this with regular smoke till I get use to it, I also wanta add that alot of weed today has chemicals in it . heck who knows if some is with JWH-018 in it now when you buy it. not long ago when I got a bag , it had a odd taste and smell to it , so nothing unless you grow your own is 100% pure anymore. and I read that weed raises blood-pressure and heart rate also, in small amounts it shouldnt give the bad side effects I read about, I will report back once I try k2 , chow

  • Adam

    Jake,

    Bonzai Winter Boost and Citrus are very potent herbal blends. They have near overdose levels of JWH. I’m not certain it is JWH-018, it could be a variant or combination of the two. That said, it is not pure powder or in it’s original form.

    I personally like it, as do all of my friends. BUT due to the potency, one or two hits are enough. Any more and you may have a bad time.

    I have also made my own blends, and prefer them to store bought blends. You just don’t know what is in the store ought blends, and they are very expensive.

  • Jesse

    Hey umm Jake..please sh@t up. You are an i&^%t. I don’t like drugs and im not pro-drug use but still man come on, the most powerful hallucigen known to man? eat a batch of mushies or rippa bong of some strong salvia and your gonna be a little more tweeked than smoking this spice sh1t..yeah maybe you had a bad time with it, sorry about that i really feel bad but keep your stupid thoughts to yourself. thanks.

  • Ray

    I tryed it and im gonna cont too , it is just like good weed to me, amazing

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  • paul meyer

    Cannabis and jwh is an interesting comparison. I haven’t smoked cannabis in the last 10 years, but remember the effects.
    Yes, the high is almost identical, but there are differences in physiological effects for me. With jwh, there is less ptosis and conjunctival injection than cannabis. That’s droopy eyelids and red eyes. Also, like cannabis, it prevents the rebound awakening and insomnia from having drunk alcohol. High lasts 2-3 hrs, then it’s like nothing ever happened. No groggy fuzzy after effects. Tachycardia is much more on jwh, and
    this keeps me from using it. Increase in libido, anxiety, and hyperacusis is similar to, but less than cannabis. Maybe because I couldn’t do enough because of the cardiac effects. Heart rate went up to 152 BPM and my heart was beating so hard I could count the beats w/o putting my hand on any of the usual points to count the pulse. 220-my age (59) gives a max safe rate of 161. For a few minutes, I could hear my heart making a sound through my chest which I’ve never heard before. Scary. This was after 5 tokes in quick succession. Don’t think this stuff is for me. Hawaii made it illegal on Aug. 1.

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  • Kloud

    Experience today with JWH-018, first time. 98% pure form.
    i used about the tip of a knifes worth, thinking that smoking that much would simply get me very very high. about 1 minute later, i was extremely high, as though i had smoked some bomb ass weed, another minute or so and on came a strong physical high. over the course of the next minute or two, i stood in place, tripping and swaggering constantly(based on what my girlfriends told me), during this period of 1-2 minutes, i hallucinated heavily, and my body began to feel very painful, thats when i knew something was wrong. i managed to tell my girlfriend to call an ambulance and get me to a hospital. i sat down right there, on the floor, and became completely unresponsive for the next 5 minutes or so, which seemed like hours to me, as my hallucinations got increasingly intense, and fearful. once the paramedics and sheriff arrived, i started coming to, and was able to mumble slight answers and was then in the ambulance. i freaked out on the paramedics when i looked down and saw an IV in me filled with blood (they were drawing a little bit so they could test it back at the hospital), i screamed at them, and threatened there lives, and a law suit(which made them take out the IV and allowed me to calm down). the way into the hospital and trip up to it seemed to take hours, but was only about 20 minutes. by the time i was at the hospital, i had calmed down considerably, slipping in and out of coherence, and strong hallucinations, but flipped again when they started drawing blood, but was able to calm myself down after a moment or two. the total effects lasted for about 3 hours, with mostly being moderate hallucinations and general confusion and discomfort while at the hospital. it should be noted that i was NOT smoking any form of spice product. i had smoked them previously, and spice is very similar to marijuana. the pure(or nearly pure) jwh, should not be smoked under any circumstances, unless you are 100% prepared for what i just described. if you smoke it, please be safe, make sure someone is there to watch you, and only smoke a very VERY small amount. as i said, i had the tip of a knife, and had those symptoms. im still not entirely sure what all happened, only small amounts from my memory, and what my girlfriend could tell me.this IS dangerous. do not take to much of it. i have done many drugs, and nothing compared to this. even belladonna does not produce this powerful of hallucinations, or feelings of fear and distress.

  • J. Dubson

    PLEASE NOTE LAST PARAGRAPH ON HALLUCINATIONS

    As someone who has been freebasing JWH-018 powder since it was popularized earlier in the year (as well as 73, 200, and 250, but they’re boring!) I must agree with many of the warnings above. I’ve been an avid marijuana smoker for 8 years, with a 9th year of “getting into it” before I became a daily smoker. Even with such a high psychological tolerance to the CB1/2 experience, this stuff gets me absolutely blasted.

    I could smoke literally any amount of weed in a session (1 oz+ on 4/20s) and be fine. If I smoke too much JWH, particularly the 18, my heart races, I feel the chest/back/neck tension associated with panic attacks, rather severe anxiety, and become uncharacteristically socially awkward. Going from “really high” to “this isn’t fun” seems to only take a 20-30% margin of dosing error. Also, JWH sometimes causes SEVERE NEGATIVE INTERACTIONS with other drugs/medications, so caution should always be taken when mixing. Smoking JWH-18 when on a small dose of Buprenorphine (Subutex – an opiate) caused a 3-4 fold amplification of effects and dizziness causing me to almost faint several times. Ive never fainted in my life. A friend who smoked a small amount JWH-18 on 60mg of Oxycodone (a powerful opiate) experienced a negative psychedelic experience on the level of a catastrophic LSD trip. It was really bad. Moral of the story – DO NOT MIX JWH WITH OPIATES.

    REGARDING HALLUCINATIONS: Many people claim that JWH-18 does not cause hallucinations. My normal dose at this point is about 7.5-10mg, when I had started at 2-3mg. Recently I carelessly smoked about 35-40mg in a few consecutive hits. Remember, this is pure JWH, freebased. Within 5 minutes I was unquestionably hallucinating, as much as I have on lower doses of Mushrooms and 2C-Xs. Objects were “breathing” and shifting slightly. Patterning was also visible on bright blank surfaces like the computer monitor or the sky out the window. I looked at myself in the mirror, and looked horribly ugly. I had a mini-freak out about looking drugged out, and decided to go for a walk. Everyone on the street had the same trollish ugliness, and I began to realize that I was just tripping out. Half an hour later, I was calm, and looked just peachy in the mirror once again. So, long story short, a proper JWH overdose will DEFINITELY make you hallucinate.

    Hope someone benefits from these experiential warnings. Be safe!

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  • Ray

    yea if you did that with pure THC or any non cut drug , those symptoms will probably happen, since my last post I smoked it almost on weekly base maybe 3-4 times a week along with some beers, but I always do it as K2 summit, never pure I never knew you can buy it pure, on regular weed I had some bad freak trips also, but I can get myself somewhat calm now If I do , its all mental. now cause I got use to K2, I can smoke a pipe full now and feel good. first time I did it I freaked almost on one hit cause I was thinking about that to much. but I like it now , and they sell it 3 miles from my house .lol getting the real stuff is a pain in the ass. plus I cant get busted.

  • Ray

    the biggest warning i can give anyone, if you do this for the first time and smoke more then one hit, before you get use to it ,I can see why someone like jake hates it that’s just dumb

  • Kias

    I made the mistake of smoking too much of the Wicked XXX blend which is said to be the strongest herbal incense and Which i also believe has a much higher percent of the JWH-018. After the first hit i didn’t really feel all that high so i continued, the next time I looked the blunt was halfway gone and i was on the floor having muscle spasms and shaking uncontrollably and dry heaving,once i gained back a little composure i tried to eat which was unsuccesful three different times as i immediately vomited each time i would eat something. in addition to this, i had a head-splitting migrane, as well as extreme nausea and body fatigue as if all my muscles were just shutting down i thought i was going to die, it was by far the worst experience i’ve ever had with smoking ANYTHING and do not recommend it to anyone.

  • meh

    you’d have to be an idiot to ingest a chemical which was never designed for human consumption.

  • anonymous

    I smoke jwh in its pure, crystal form and let me tell you some other things you got somewhat wrong, #1. When I smoke jwh, it almost is instantaneous. My friends have take the hit, and were immediately high as they were exhaling. Also, I’ve hallucinated on jwh. My friend once thought a rag was a talking hat and that his fan had an agenda to kill him. Also, have you heard the voices? You’re insane, you’re insane, you’re insane, insane, insane, sane… (the creepy echoing voices?) And sometimes having quadruple vision? And I threw up from it this morning. A couple of my friends can’t do it because they always throw up from it.

  • anonymous

    and #45, it was designed for human consumption. the scientist that made it wasn’t intending on bonsai fertilizer, he was making a synthetic weed. something that triggers your cannabinoid receptors and gets you high without thc.

  • amazed

    Jake says
    “I rolled a joint with a half gram, took 4 hits and thought I was gonna die”.

    500mg? really? hmmmmm, i wonder why you felt that way? i’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you really didn’t know just how much 500mg was. Get educated first.

    Folks, come on now. common sense anyone? Just like anything, you need to be responsible. you think you’ll feel different drinking 1 beer compared to a case? people calling 911. you wonder why stuff gets banned? this guy over here is trying to smoke 500mg that put him on his ass. it must be bad shit. let’s ban it, quick!

    And for the person using the wicked xxx thats supposed to be the strongest ever. hmmm, i didn’t feel anything off the first hit so lets go ahead and smoke half the blunt of what i was told was the strongest shit around…. and then see how i feel. and then bitch about how dangerous it is. you know they make wicked x? and not just xxx? yeah, the x isnt as strong. The strongest shit just sounds more cool though doesn’t it. You made your bed, now lie in it. The only thing that makes it dangerous is you. of course i use it also, and know how much makes me feel good which is the point, and how much makes me feel not so good. the difference is, i know that i made the choice. if you havn’t used this stuff before……baby steps people, baby steps.
    It really is pleasant in the right hands.

  • don

    Did JHW-018 for a week and than when I had to pee it felt like I still had to go, at night every 2 hours I had to go. After 10 days it went back to normal, guess JWH messes with your body in a bad way. Put 2+ grms in the garbage can, not worth the health risk…

  • Dimitri

    Very well put “Amazed” if you are going to smoke jwh do it responsibly! Don’t smoke 500 mg’s in one does especially when there are thousands of reviews online that you can find at the click of the mouse. Most people recommend smoking 1-3 mg’s especially for your first time.

    Stupid people who overdose are the reason drugs become illegal. When dosed properly jwh has many benefits and is very helpful. I myself have been smoking Kind, K2, and full synthetic JWH-018. I have over dosed one time and ended up throwing up. I would like to point out when i O.D. i had orally ingested about 3-4 mg which i am use to. I also smoked a bowl of k2 with a friend. If i had not smoked the bowl i would have been fine. I have been smoking Jwh-018 for over 6 months now and have had only the one bad experience. Otherwise i have had nothing but good experiences with this drug. I would recommend trying it if you have not, just make sure to take it slow. Smoke what you know you can handle. If you are not high after the first ten minutes then take another hit. take it slow and work into it.

    One of my friends is very depressed and her anti-depressants don’t work for her. She gets very annoyed and mad at people even with her anti-depressants. When she smokes she is very pleasant to be around and everyone likes to hang out with her.

    As always be smart and do some homework before you take anything for the first time. And make sure you have someone to sit for you. Be careful and stay high my friends

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  • name

    The scientists who created and tested jwh-018 said anyone who uses the compound is an idiot. Everyone using or thinking about using jwh-018 should listen to them. A good friend of mine is back in a mental health facility because of k2 use.

    If you want the “marijuana high”, you are seriously better off just smoking the real thing.

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  • JoeWeed

    Marijuana was a plant grown for a purpose. A medical purpose. Go suffer a traumatic head injury, have your brain removed, shoved back in and see who you are. You won’t remember a dam thing. Go smoke some weed and see how it makes everything start working again. Then when you get put on probation and can’t smoke it, see how pissy it makes you and how much pain there is to hate. I then got ahold of that judgement day first. It helped alot. Then I got k2. If you can’t smoke weed, you might as well get some jwh-018. It is something else that should be used for medical reasons. Put a label on it with directions and maybe there will be less problems. Use your head and quit with the negative bulls**t. It will effect everybody differently. Nobody is the same as somebody else!

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  • Laurie

    I am a mother of a 16 yr old son who overdosed Monday night on this stuff. He smoked a “home grown” version of Damiana which he reports was also treated with 018, as well as K3. He experienced all the negative side effects that are mentioned throughout this string. ALL of them. In addition to those, he also had dilated pupils for 50 hours after the episode. I was actually on here to find out if the spasms (which looked like seizures to me) came from the brain or just in the bloodstream and wondered if we needed to get him a brain scan to see if there is any long term effect we should look for. As far as I can see, no one knows about long term effects because it’s new. I do believe that had my son been with “friends” that night instead of in his parents’ home and care, he could have died. He had the vomiting, hallucinations, seizures, eyes rolling backwards, incoherent speech, inability to understand us, out of body experience, loss of muscle control, extreme fear, paranoia really, and mouth so dry his tongue refused to work right. We are now committed to trying to spread the word about how dangerous this legal alternative to pot is. I say it should not be used at all.

  • TimmyCostigan

    Okay guy this is no joke! Yesterday I have been smoking K2 strawberry and Black Mamba for a month now usually like 10 grams a day. Well, earlier I got a bag of strawberry and packed a bowl and when I put the bowl to my mouth before even lighting it I smelled the K2 and immediately had a stroke, seizure and heart attack all at the same time. I fell off of the ladder I had been sitting on into a wading pool full of radios, toaster ovens and power tools all plugged into a socket. Well needless to say I was fine but after I got up I went into the house and I tripped on my little brother’s toy truck and broke my neck on my dog, breaking his back at the same time. Now we’re both dead because I was an idiot and decided to smoke K2!!! I should have just kept taking oxycontin, coke, pot, alcohol enemas, heroin and the occasional crack rock. I could have been somebody! Don’t let this happen to you or your friends! Take it from me because I’m dead.

    Oh yeah, a little side note. After I died my family went on a terrorist rampage and killed my entire town and then themselves. Now we’re all stuck in hell having sex with each other non-stop for eternity.

  • Bro!!1

    @ Timmy ,

    I LOL’d so hard bro.

  • Nameless

    “a cannabinoid agonist for the receptors tagged as CB1 and CB2 and comes from the family of naphthoylindoles.”

    Please translate to the High School graduate level.

  • Motley

    Timmy: Way too funny! Nothing like sarcasm to make me smile!

    MEH:”
    “you’d have to be an idiot to ingest a chemical which was never designed for human consumption.” Admittedly, -018 is a chemical. Not designed for human consumption? Maybe a different story. Let’s see what else is made of chemicals: xanax, almost all or all antidepressants, sleep meds, pain killers all the way down to Ibuprophen and such, hell…might as well say all prescription meds and most over the counter ones too. AND…take a look at what is put into what you eat. Shit, the end of the ingredients in a box of cereal can hardly be pronounced. What makes these “designed for human consumption?” I’ll tell ya. The pharmacutical and chemical companies, which produce their own studies and present them to the FDA (another joke). If the pharm and chem companies were to realize they could make a buck, all of a sudden it’d be OK to consume it and it would be mass marketed. They would provide the FDA with their results, tests usually funded by the federal gov’t, then lobby congress to legalize it. They don’t want MJ legalized because we could grow it in our own back yards and they wouldn’t be able to show profits to the shareholders. Take a look at your own life and what you really put into your body before you call anyone stupid!!!!!

  • Tolwork

    @ TimmyCostigan…WIN!

    @ Laurie…how did your 16 year old overdose? …if your dumb enough to not do your own research before trying something as such…if your dumb enough to go ape shit and smoke it all cause you don’t feel it right off…then your ass needs to buckle up and enjoy the ride. make the bed you sleep in.

    Also Laurie, you, might want to reconsider who your 16 year old son hangs out with, you might want to talk to him about being more responsible in his own decision making, and you might want to take a step back. Just because your kid goes and does something stupid, doesn’t mean you get to erect an army of followers and do something about it. You doing anything about world hunger? AIDS? You doing anything to mass produce jobs? If you answered no to any of these, step down…calm down…hell, have some K2. Please consume responsibly.

  • Sarah

    Laurie, that sucks for your son, but I feel you. This stuff is not good at all! I was told by my boyfriend this last summer what it was and trusted him to try it with him. I live and work in a military community so my previous drug habit of smoking marijuana is not something I can partake in anymore. So I tried Spice and I loved it. The effects doesn’t hit you right away and it is EXTREAMLY easy to overdose on it. I have overdosed many many many times and no time is ever fun. Although I will admit my subconscious did bring up some interesting personal insights that were helpful to my life, the stuff regardless is horrible. Ok, now if you use it every once in a while, you are probably safe. But if you are a previous pot head looking for that one thing to get you through the week, spice looks great…but you WILL get addicted, if you use it as much as I do and most people I know, do. It is highly addictive unlike Weed, and I wish that Weed were legal because that is what I would be smoking and I would still be just fine, but it’s not, and I’m on spice and now addicted, have a huge problem trying to quit, it takes up all of my money and the high doesn’t last as long. Try as i might to get off of it, I can’t. Now they have taken JWH-018 out of the products and while I don’t overdose anymore or get extremely paranoid it takes more of it to get me high which costs more money and more smoke in my lungs. And that’s another thing. I am not a tobacco smoker for a reason, I like my lungs…Weed never did this to me, but with Spice every day several times a day I cough up black mucus..BLACK! Wonder what my lungs look like now. My voice is raspy and I’ve only been smoking it since June 2010. Cigarette smokers don’t even have that kind of issues right after they start smoking. Why in holy hell this stuff was legal, I will never know. It is illegal now, but of course scientists have found new compounds that probably harm our bodies more and keep us addicted to this growing epidemic called Spice. Our government needs to seriously take their money grubbing heads out of their ass’s and make all forms of spice and the compounds used to create the “high” we are all looking for, make it illegal and then make Marijuana legal for RECREATIONAL USE…our government can make some money on that crop as well as the crop of Hemp which could turn our economic and environmental issues around. Why the hell does this kind of stuff gain legal status when there is still so much we don’t know about it, when a great plant like Marijuana that we have spent years studying and SMOKING is illegal. What the hell is wrong with this world?

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  • kendall

    Long time weed smoker. Smoked spice for a while… was fine… smoked the pure jwh… instantly had an out of body experience, couldn’t feel my legs… walk/ stumbled to the kitchen and BAM! Felt like I got shot in the head and my right ear stopped working and the right side of my head felt like it was the size of a basketball. I left it alone for a while… started getting drug tested recently. So I went back to K2 blonde and strawberry. The other night I smoked a few joints (strawberry) over a long period of time..felt fine. When I woke up the next day.. my right side of my body was numb. My right eye was blurry and it was kind of hard to talk. It was hard to walk too because my right leg was numb. Also the right side of my face was numb. Its been over 24 hours now. I’m still numb and having vision problems. I’m pretty sure I had a mini stroke. Not to say this will happen to everyone… but obviously it can happen. I know people that smoke it all the time and are fine… but everyone reacts differently. I guess ill just invest in an herbal cleanser and go back to weed. I hope this shit isn’t permanent.

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  • Name

    I suggest to anyone wanting this kind of high, to use the real deal, there has been suicides reported and other mental health issues linked to all this herbal incense stuff. It’s not healthy and can damage ones life forever. Please DO Not Smoke

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  • marcus

    A very small subset do experience full blown psychedelic experiences although I would rather call them delusions as the user often recalls not knowing the visuals were fake… hence, delusions. Plus, the mindful and emotional insight of traditional psychedelics is void. My friend’s experience is posted last here. Very scary incident.

    It’s either excessively high ‘analogue’ concentration [jwh-xxx], excessive sensitivity of the receptor, or simply another chemical all together that causes the effect.

    Concentration issue is unlikely. During this event, I and my gf along with her friend stepped outside for a J of Spike Max [rainbow package]. This was the original, before ban, with jwh-018 and others. The friend only took two puffs and gf and I finished. She seemed to zone out so we let her chill.

    Excessive sensitivity is a possibility. Genetic differences could easily account for such a small number of cases, and we know that cannabis which is also a psychedelic technically can cause mild hallucinations in high amounts of premo stuff. Take Neville’s Haze or Barney Farm’s LSD for instance. However, they’re a stark difference between typical weed visuals and what this friend experienced which leads me to believe that another chemical causes the action.

    It could very well be a combination of the two… rather than jwh, it could be a metabolite produced during its metabolism, and THAT metabolite has an exceptionally low dissociate factor from the receptor.

    who knows, but one thing for sure is that with a small subset, certain spice products under certain conditions can cause PCP-like hallucinations.

    Now for the story, after two puffs and zoning out. She fell against a column and hung on it. Cool… then starts slowly falling off porch but not being cute… can’t seem to move well. Starts screaming. I drop J and pick her up. She lays on ground as gf and I are a lil freaked. Then she starts moaning like having an orgasm. Then crawls between my legs and chases my dog around [good thing she didn’t get her hands on her]. I pick her up now a lil pissed and try to calm her. She starts screaming me name repeatedly while still moaning [real mindf*ck here]… lips start turning blue from screaming so much.. she’s suffocating herself by screaming. I’m restraining her now as she’s fighting back. I get gf to call 911 for EMTs as I’m concerned about an overdose [though I know logically that shouldn’t happen, but i’ve been there before]. She finally calms several minutes later and start collapsing. Gf and I are smackin her a lil tryin to wake her.. she’s out of it. She finally comes back to reality, and now damage control. I call the police back tryin to call off EMTs. I get them off, but local PD shows up. Luckily it was a family friend officer, it was spice so no smell worries, and I had the clever idea of sayin her bf just left her and she went spastic so I thought she was having a seizure of sorts. We make it through and she’s shook up for days just as gf and I are.

    **********What the girl said she experienced*********** After 2nd puff. She said things slowed down, started turning cartoony [sounded like PCP]. then she became a tiger….. and she was just to burst out of the tiger [sounds like DMT]… then her head was floating on top of her body and spinning uncontrollably. She thought hitting her head on the column would make it stop. The porch dropped off into a huge canyon, and my dog was like a cyborg dinosaur. She began screaming my name because I was the only thing she could recognize and her mind got stuck on that track [the familiar mindloop common in regular psychedelics]. I looked normal while everything else was a cartoon.

    That’s all she really remembered… she said there was so much more but she can’t pinpoint well.

    i still smoked spice on rare occasions when out of green.. but lettucebeecereal… stick to real grass to avoid health/mental issues. Last random note, don’t f*ckin touch DXM/couch syrup. fun short term.. can become a crazy addiction… almost daily for 10months. it stopped depression but brought on psychosis. crazy since Seroquel works in a “SIMILAR, not same” fashion. oh well, green treats my schizoaffective or rapid cycle bipolar… whichever it really is… great. I may even lower my antidepressant dosage.

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  • joe

    i smoked happy shaman herbs, ive smoked alot of it, i use to smoke it all the time, its nothing like weedd, i mean you get high and thats all they have in common. its happend acouple times ive smoked it , and dont get me wrong ive smoke blunts of this stuff and been fine, but these accasional times this is what happend, i cant breathe on my own, and when i breathe in my heart gets ripped up, the heart should go bu bump, bu bump, bu bump, but mine goes bu bu bu bump, bu bu bump, bu bump bu bu bump, and it feels like my chest is getting ripped open, i get musle inflamation, incluing the heart, but the effect it does on my lungs is horrific, scary, life threathening, i dont belive in god,but i drop to the ground and pray for my life, my veins go numb along with my neck every artery, <- witch is the thing that if it gets cut open every time your heart beats it squirts blood ( your heart is a artery), i start puking, i feel like im puking my intenstins up, like it eats away my insides, so many other effects , i havent smoked it in a while and i still can breathe right i have heart mermers,i breathe in and my heart herts, its bad i almost want to cry, i feel like its put out there to killpeople, like a terriorst, idk bout i dont suggest it. and i know i cant controll people but if you smoke it , dont take more than one hit. trust me, and it you do smoke it, i hope what happend to me doesnt happen to you, but one day it will. its not all fun and games, its a chemical made in a labritory, lab supply.com ect. bad shit, smoke weed i can smoke pound of weed an not even have a slighest worry.. and if tht shit happens to you, drink alot of water. peace.

  • babygirl

    ok as far as this drug goes i have watched many poeple smoke this crap all day every day fro awhile now i have even tried it myself.. to be honest it makes people retarded and slow they have balence problems and my times have they puked from it.. they have had alot of problems with memory and very delaid thoughts and reactions.. i have noticed in men that they are just like a women with really bad pms..they are always coughing along with coughing up alot of flem and having chest pains… i dont think anyone should be smoking this crap stick to the real thing less side effect…

  • Paul

    Well, yeah for the most part, these people are right about herbal spice being way too strong–but i think the thing that screws with your mind is–YOU DON’T REALLY KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN 5 YEARS FROM SOMKING THIS CRAP–MAYBE YOUR DICK WILL TURN BLACK AND FALL OFF i dunno–but i decided to quit smoking weed because of the price and sketchy personalities that come along with it–so went to the local head shop bought a gram of some locally made herb called red eye or something like that–well i smoked a pin joint (4 or 5 small hits) i could feel something coming on after about 10 minutes i figured that was about it and took two small bong hits–well, thats when i felt like i took some weak blotter acid. felt clear headed but extremely uncomfortable which never experienced with weed—now i have smoked dank and had a mild panic attack –but my head was all cloudy and dreamy–this stuff made you alert and paranoid which are two things that shouldn’t combine–anyway i took the dog for a 1 hour walk and came back and still felt slightly wigged out—anyway i threw the rest of it out–because my mind kept saying “what is you smoked is UNKNOWN because i dont know if it 018 or psycotropic herbs—but it was UNCOOL because i did smoke just 3 hits and my balls almost went back in my stomach!
    DON’T SMOKE THIS STUFF UNLESS YOU WANT WIGG OUT AND STAND IN ONE PLACE FOR 2 HOURS. anyway–the next day i scraped some resin out of my bong (different bong) and when i smoked the resin– that uneasy feeling started coming back like a flash back or somthing–that’s when i came on here and was like
    “oh no what did i smoke?” there are other boards i have been on and like 75 PERCENT OF the people wigged out at some point off of this stuff. I bet we will find out later this stuff is worse than crack–anyway look at bathsalts–they snort that stuff and i heard it makes meth look like vitamins–to hell with that!!! some guy snorted that shit and was naked on the expressway shooting at cars because he thought they were terrorists!!
    what is wrong with these new LEGAL drugs!!????

  • Jay Miro

    JWH- Does NOT BURN your lungs or throat , what people put it on and smoke do to the fire they use , is what is hot and could burn a throat . This “burn” is equal to the feeling of tobacco smoke or any smoke inhaled . Advice would be use less random things if you must smoke the JWH on top of something else . Again you do not have to Smoke JWH at all , if digested its a safe as any over the counter piece of candy . Candy could be worse for you though . Hope That Help . Take Care . God Bless

  • Jay Miro

    Again, these posts are for people Who Do Smoke Pot and are curious about JWH . Depending on what kind of JWH its a fine substitute depending on what kind of access you have in your state to different types of pot or mj. gl